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Matthew Wald is a former reporter for The New York Times who reported on nuclear energy and electric technologies. He currently works as a writer and communications consultant specializing in nuclear technology and policy for the Breakthrough Institute, a non-governmental organization that advocates for advanced nuclear reactors. In a recent Zoom talk to Friends of Oak Ridge National Laboratory and others, he said, “We do need to get our electricity house in order.” He stated that many Americans think the way to keep their electricity costs down is to install rooftop solar panels on their houses.
Wald continued, “This is artisanal energy policy, which is my term for people who think that steps you take at home are going to solve our national energy problems. It won’t do the job. We’re going to need some major new power plants.” He added that those plants should house nuclear reactors.
Wald added, “The nuclear industry and community have committed industrial sin. Nuclear suffered through a long drought, and now it sees terrific demand for its product, and it’s not ready to deliver the needed electricity.”
New companies planning to build advanced nuclear power reactors, including microreactors and small modular reactors, have missed the upcoming round of construction that is being undertaken by builders of generators powered by natural gas. Wald claimed that the United States (U.S.) lacks enough gas generators to meet predicted future power demands, as well as the capacity to build them. He noted that many electric utilities that used to “build nuclear plants aren’t interested anymore.”
However, startups are announcing their intentions to build nuclear reactors or make nuclear fuel, including three Wald named (Kairos Power, Oklo and X-energy) that have purchased property in Oak Ridge’s western industrial parks.
Wald mentioned a trend in which artificial intelligence companies such as Amazon, Meta and Microsoft are making power purchase agreements (PPAs) with owners or constructors of nuclear power plants to ensure their future AI data centers will have reliable power. The PPAs significantly lower the high-tech companies’ carbon footprint and help keep the power plants in operation.
Wald did not mention that Kairos Power, which is building the Hermes series of demonstration reactors in Oak Ridge, also has a PPA with Google and TVA, and that Amazon has a PPA with X-energy, which is building the TRISO-X fuel fabrication factory in Oak Ridge.
If the demand for electricity continues to rise because of the needs of AI data centers and a growing U.S. population that continues to purchase new electronic gadgets and appliances, energy policy with respect to nuclear reactors must change.
Wald said that one part of the new model that must change is the way that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) works to license new advanced thirty- to three hundred-megawatt nuclear reactors that differ from the many traditional one thousand megawatt pressurized-water and boiling-water reactors in power plants it has approved for decades.
Wald said, “Regulators must supply human intelligence to each license application, but their process must run many times faster than it does now, especially for licensing reactors that produce just three hundred megawatts or thirty megawatts or ten megawatts or one megawatt. These are just one-by-one individual licenses. If we’re going to think big, we’ve got to rethink regulation.”
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In answer to a question on the NRC, Wald said that the commission is working on accelerating its licensing processes because of an executive order from President Trump. He said he agrees that this is an excellent idea because “what the NRC does is not very productive. It has a bureaucracy that is resistant to change and that’s now dealing with new technologies. I am open to the idea that they’ll make errors, they’ll approve things they shouldn’t, and we’re going to learn from experience. The NRC has this habit of approving things they have approved before and of not approving of anything nobody’s ever done before. That’s not a recipe for successful innovation and industrial progress.”
Wald talked about the need for economic production of nuclear power reactors with novel designs. Stimulating a nuclear renaissance, he said, will necessitate making “new products like we stamp out Boeing 737s or we used to stamp out Liberty ships. In serial production, if not mass production, economics must be key. We’ve got to design the better mousetrap and figure out how to build it and how to deliver it at competitive cost. Carbon reduction pledges will help in the market, but in the end, future nuclear power plants will rise or fall on the economics.”
The politics of nuclear power must change too, Wald said. Noting that the not-in-my-backyard cliché, or NIMBY, as a common objection to proposals to build nuclear reactors near neighborhoods, Wald pointed out that “some of the new reactor designs will occupy literally about as much space as a backyard. Some of the designs will have plug-and-play reactor cores with the old nuclear core going back to the manufacturer every few years” to get its spent nuclear fuel replaced with fresh nuclear fuel.
Wald discussed a scenario in which the staff of a reactor manufacturing company’s headquarters were welcomed to a large neighborhood in a big city. Years later, the local residents noticed a truck had just delivered an old reactor core to the headquarters!
Wald said that “The other problem with artisanal energy policy is it doesn’t work as part of a system. Solar and wind tribalists say their costs are going down. But we would be much better off if we invested our money into collective solutions. We should invest our money in the electric grid. If all the money used to purchase eleven-kilowatt emergency generators, like I and others have in my neighborhood, had gone into the grid instead, we’d all be better off.
Wald added, “I think that solar and wind farms have their place, but only to the extent that they benefit the system. Adding solar panels in a place where noontime electricity prices on the grid are negative is not a good idea, although federal and state incentives may make that happen.”
He was asked if many more nuclear power reactors were built to meet increasing demands for electricity by AI data centers, would the grid be able to handle the load? He answered that “This is actually something in nuclear power’s favor.” He noted that little high-voltage transmission is being built in the country because of successful lawsuits based on environmental rules.
Wald mentioned that “The amount of electricity transmission you need to support a new reactor is lower than what you need for wind or solar or hydro energy sources. Nuclear plants have reasonably flexible siting requirements.”
Wald surprised a few people in his audience by saying he’s not sure that commercial fusion power reactors envisioned for mid-century will be needed. He said that “I think fusion power seeks to solve two problems that fission does not, in fact, have.”
“One of the problems is a shortage of fuel, and the other is the disposal of radioactive waste. We don’t have a shortage of uranium, and we don’t have any shortage of plutonium if we want it. The problem of radioactive waste from nuclear power plants is manageable.”